Friday, September 28, 2012

Through the Prison Bars

Students, You have now had a chance to meet and get acquainted with Turner Ernest Buckminster III. As he struggles with his new surroundings and the weight that rests on his shoulders, he is coming to better know himself... but does he like what he sees?

On p. 42 of Lizzie Bright and the Buckminster Boy, Turner says he hates himself for playing the minister's son as he begins to realize that his life is not his own. Does he have a choice in the matter? Could he have handled the situation any differently? Could he have avoided embarassing himself and/or his father?

Answer and defend your stance with examples from the novel.

DUE October 12, 2012, by 4:30 p.m.

30 comments:

  1. Eli K.

    Turner does have a choice in the matter, but he does not choose to do it at the right time or place. He could have but yet he does not choose to, he chooses what he wants to do or what first comes in mind. Example: When Willis teases him, instead of saying please stop, he punches him. Lastly, yes, he could, but he always does the wrong thing at the wrong time. Example: After the fight with Willis he doesn’t go back to his house to wash off he goes back into Misses Cobb’s house, and becomes almost naked, and gets into more trouble.

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  2. I disagree with Eli the Turner doesn't have a choice but I do agree with him some. Turner can't change his father for being the minister. However, he does have a chance in a way. Gary D. Schmidt says that this is the first time Turner thought about lighting out for the territories. He could have handled this situation much better by growing up some instead of almost crying when jumping off that cliff on pages 10 and 11. Turner also could of thought of the flip side of Phippsburg. He could have thought of it as a new place to live and experience. But he takes it as a punishment. If he had grown up, he wouldn't hate himself as much for being the minister's son because he fit in. Although, not everybody fits in, so I think he does have a choice to go and live with Lizzie or ignore what his father says to him. Turner Buckminster could have handled this so much better if he had grown up a little bit and fit in. I also think if he hadn't talked back to his dad Reverend Buckminster, he wouldn’t be in this heap of trouble. I bet he could even enjoy being the minister's son if he didn't take it as a punishment. Being the minister's son is a great honor as your dad is the minister of the town. Like on page 13 when Turner walked on Parker Head with no shirt and Mrs. Cobb came out. If he had changed his actions during this time, I think Turner would not hate himself on this matter. I also think his parents wouldn't be so embarrassed. They wouldn't be getting letters that Turner was waking around shirtless on Parker Head. If Turner had taken any of these actions, he would be fine as minister's son and could have a choice in this matter.

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  3. When Turner said that he hated being the Buckminister's son, I felt bad for him. it all started at the baseball game. turner was used to playing real baseball. The people on Malaga Island played differently. they would slowly loft the ball into the air, which made it very hard for turner to hit. After turner struck out his own dad laughed at him. if i was turner my self esteem level would have gone crashing down.

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  4. I think he could have handled the situation differently by not trying to fit in so much as soon as he figured out that he didn’t fit in, so I disagree with Matt on that. I feel that Turner, like Matt said, can’t change his father for being a minister, but he can change himself, so yes, I think he does have a choice. Although it’s not always easy to realize that you don’t fit in, Turner realized that as soon as he met Lizzie. I also think that it must be extremely difficult to have one friend, and to be ban from Lizzie’s Island. I disagree with Matt because I don’t think that Turner needed to grow up, I think that his father, the people form the Church, and anyone else who thinks it’s not right for Turner to be hanging out with a “negro” need to grow up.

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  5. I think that Turner didn't do anything wrong. He doesn't mean to embarrass his father, but everyone has high expectations that Turner can't live up to. I agree with Matt and Katie, because he isn't his father, and can't change anything he does, but he can change himself. But the change that everyone wants is not reasonable. Everyone is different, and Turner is just different. If he can't change being ministers son, and can't change, he should just be him, and ignore what everyone says. That is why I think Lizzie is extremely important. Lizzie is the only person Turner can actually be himself with. Sometimes Turner doesn't care that he embarrasses his dad, and I think that is okay, because his dad doesn't listen to his family, only everyone elses opinion. I think that the most important thing to do if you are considered important, is to come up with ideas and opinions and listen to other people's, not just yours or just the other people's ideas. I think that it is Reverend Buckminster that needs to change more than Turner.

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  6. I agree with Sydney that Turner didn't do anything wrong but I think he could of embarrassed him and his a father a bit less. For example, the white shirts, the first time I thought it was an accident but the second time when he hit a rock with a branch, it was kind of stupid. I think he should of used something softer than a rock. Turner can't be Reverend Buckminister, he's still a child. He can't be all formal like a minister. I think Reverend Buckminister should understand that just because Turner is a minister's son doesn't mean he can't be free and wear what he wants. Also,if Reverend Buckminister wwants Turner to stop embarrasing him, he should be nicer to Turner. Instead of laughing at him when he strikes out in baseball on the first day they arrive in Phippsburg.

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  7. I agree with Vash and Sydney that Turner didn't do anything wrong, but i also think that after the first time He embarrassed his father,he should have been more careful about his actions. Although Turner doesn't literally have a choice in being the Minister's son or not,he could still try to make the best of the situation he was in rather than throwing rocks at a fence for example, he could try to have a life of his own within his fathers restrictions instead.

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  8. I agree with kallie, vash and sydney that Turner didn't do anything wrong. He could have avoided embarrassing himself and his father by not throwing rocks at Mrs.Cobb's fence for example. Even though Turner sometimes wishes that he wasn't the minister's son, he does not have a choice in the matter. He could handle being the minister's son by again, not throwing rocks at Mrs.Cobb's fence, and trying to be kind of like the son that Reverend Buckminster wished for. Also, he could have avoided embarrassing himself and his father, but I don't think that his dad should be that mad at him for embarrassing them.

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  9. In my opinion, Turner Buckminster III does have a choice in this matter [playing the minister's son], he could have handled this situation differently, and he could have avoided embarrassing himself and his father. However, the answers everyone else would have wanted are the answers Turner would hate. Turner could not play the minister's son. He could go along and get blood on his shirt (pg. 28, 44) all the time. He could go play on Malaga Island with Lizzie all the time. He could disobey his father - and the congregation - all the time. Getting his own way, though, is for a price. It may not be worth it to go to Malaga and Lizzie if he has to confront his father and the congregation about his sins. It definitely would not be worth it to come home all the time and get slapped by your father, then get grounded for two weeks; defy your father again the next day, then come home to more slaps, two more weeks of grounding, and Latin for four hours (pg. 120 ~ 121). Or Turner could play the minister's son. He would be the perfect boy, always wearing his white shirt, crisp and starched. He would not play with Lizzie on Malaga Island. Instead, he would shun the Negros, asking them to leave Malaga for the better of Phippsburg. He would not skip rocks at Mrs. Cobb's fence and punch Willis Hurd in the nose. Still, he would not like the price.

    Turner could have avoided embarrassing himself and his father by playing the minister's son - at all times. Turner needs his freedom. Yet he does not want to have too much freedom. Turner is balancing himself between the two extremes: defiance at no cost or obedience at any cost. If Turner chose the minister's son extreme, he would not get punished, embarrassed, and shamed for embarrassing his father.

    There are times when he does play the minister's son, such as on page 42, where it says, "He was perfectly dressed in another startling white shirt, and not a soul whom he passed on the street of who eyed him through a parlor window - and there were plenty of should who eyed him - could find a single blessed fault. He walked as if he were in the company of the elect, so that even Mrs. Cobb would have had to stretch to find something to remark on." But then, it says, "Turner hated himself for playing the minister's son. He desperately wanted to pull out his collar, or to run, or just to holler. but he couldn't. I am not my own, he thought, but belong body and should to every parishioner in Phippsburg who might have a word to say about me to my father. And there seemed to be plenty of words and plenty of parishioners to say them." Then, Turner switched to his true form: a young boy who desperately wants free of his minister's son prison bars.

    To avoid embarrassment to Turner and his father would be to tune out his prison bar persona and be the perfect minister's son. That is next to impossible. So, Turner chose the harder but more balanced choice - hating himself for being a minister's son and hating himself for causing all this trouble.

    *For a lookover, I definitely agree with Eli, Katie, and Sydney (sorry Matt). Vash, Kallie, and Mia have good points, but I just don't see the big picture (sorry to you guys too).

    (Mr. Bache, can we reply to any posts and post our answer there? )

    -Sarah ( 'bit lengthy, sorry)

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  10. I think that Turner Buckminster ||| doesn't have a choice. I agree with Matt that Turner should have just jumped off the cliff instead of almost crying. (pg.10,11) I also agree with Eli that Turner should have just ignored Willis instead of punching him. That was enough but going to Mrs. Cobb's house in his underwear instead of just going and washing his shirt at home was to much for his father. If he had done this he wouldn't have to play the organ for Mrs. Cobb. Like Sarah said Turner could just play the Minster's son, wear his tight, starched, white shirt, not play with Lizzie or go to Malaga Island, and just hate the "Negros". He wouldn't like this. Like Sarah said all our answers Turner would not like. I don't want to be so harsh though. I feel sad that he only has Lizzie as a friend and that everyone expects him to be perfect-like a minister. I think that Reverend Buckminster is being to harsh on his son. Like Sarah said Turner chose the harsher but balanced choice-not being a minister's son and causing lots of trouble that he didn't mean to do.

    I agree with Matt, Sarah, Sydney, Kallie, Mia, and Vasisht.

    -Michael

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  11. Turner Ernest Buckminster III does not have a choice. He can not change his father. His father is a minister, and Turner is his son. I personally do not think that it matters if Turner does not jump off a cliff or ignored Willis. He should not try to change who he is to impress anybody, because he is the one and only Turner (person wise, not by his name)To some of my classmates; would you jump off a cliff as high as the one in the book to impress someone? If someone insulted, annoyed, or teased you, would you punch them? I know that I would not have jumped off, but I would punch that person! I do not think that Turner could help that he embarassed himself or his father, becuase he just acted the way he should have. For example, if you take a perfectly finished puzzle and take a piece out to flip it over, it would not fit in to the puzzle or the picture. It is that same with the book. If Willis had not been making fun of Turner's baseball, Turner would not have hurt himself with the rocks at Malaga, or had Lizzie. The whole book is a chain that you can not/should not break. Therefore, he could not have changed anything.

    -CeCe

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  12. No, Turner really has no choice, even if he lit out for the territories and changed his ways (no sunday shirt)he would still be a ministers son. He could have done some things differently though, I mean he could have just jumped off the cliff, he could have taken the advise and changed his position in base ball, but it is not his fault he was scared he might plummet to his death or be a joke if he took the people's advise who were laughing at him. How can his dad get mad at Turner when he is really trying? Turner's father chooses to be embarrassed by it, he could have said "So my son is not the best at base ball, so what?" He could have said that in the other situation and stood by his son, but he chose not to. I guess his life will never change though, unless his father changes his way of seeing things. Living up to your elders who didn't seem to disappoint there parents must be hard. Ministers are supposed to be able to see that a church stays under control, how could any one see him as a minister son with his own father resenting him? Turner has no control over the way his father sees things.

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  13. In my opinion, I agree with every one, and not. Eli has a good point about when Willis teases him. Turner Buckminster punched him instead of saying something like, "Please Stop." and avoid getting into trouble. Then again, he does not have a choice, because if he said, "Stop" , Willis would have called Turner a chicken. At the "baseball game", even though he was used to playing baseball the way they played in Boston (I agree with Jake), he didn't have a choice in matter because they would slowly pitch the ball to him, which made it incredibly hard for him. I also with Katie that most of the people think that it's bizarre for Turner to be hanging out with a "negro" girl form Malaga Island and needed to grow and toughen up a bit. When Turner was at Mrs. Cobb's House, after punching Willis in the nose, he got his white shirt sprayed with blood and could have hidden behind some bushes and washed his shirt in the ocean or run home and change into a new one, but instead of that, he walked into Mrs.Cobb's house and runs around "naked" (he still has his underwear on) and embarrasses his father.He also did so when he was skipping stones in front of her house and ruined her fence. I personally mostly agree that turner could have handled several of the situations differently, but still, I think that he does not have a choice in matter of being the minister's son even though he dislikes it.

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  14. I think that Turner does not have a choice in playing the minister's son because he can not change the fact that his father is his father and also the minister. Turner has an abundant amount of pressure placed on him to be perfect by both the town and his father. I also think that everyone has high expectations of him just because Turner is the minister's son. However, Turner could have handled his situations differently. When Turner came to Phippsburg, I understood that living in a new town and making friends is very hard. I thought Turner was a bit too negative and I wish he would have handled his negativity about living in Phippsburg better. Also, when Turner was made to jump off a cliff due to pure pressure, I felt badly because Willis and Willis's friends were giving Turner a hard time. I thought that when he left he did the right thing because if he had jumped, he might have injured himself. Later, when Turner was throwing rocks at Mrs. Cobb's fence, I thought it wasn't the right thing to do. He should have just ignored the rocks and walked without hurling them. Turner also could have handled it better when Willis teased Turner about reading to Mrs. Cobb. Turner should have of just ignored Willis instead of punching him. That would have been a more peaceful solution. I don't think Turner could have avoided embarrassing his overly strict minister father. It must have been a challenge to move to a new place and meet everyone's expectations. This was especially hard for Turner, the minister's son. Folks, and especially his father expected him to be perfect. It would have been impossible for Turner not to disappoint people and his father was very hard to please. His father didn't really understand who Turner was as a person. We have to also remember that Turner's father, with his position in the community as a respected minister,also had a lot of pressure placed on him to be a model father with a model son.

    -Kanako

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  15. Does Turner have a choice in the matter? That is, the matter of being "the minister's son"? Well, no, not literally. He can't change who his father is or move away from Phippsburg anytime soon (although he does wish he could just light out for the Territories), and will always be thought of in Phippsburg as "the minister's son." On Malaga Island, it's different--the people there, former slaves, have been discriminated against so many times, they don't have any prejudice against Turner. I've noticed Turner is a bit what I would think of as "a minister's son"--he uses religious figures and events in similes and metaphors he uses to describe the world around him. For example, "It was as if God had just remade the world for him, and he was Adam, waking up, an entire globe to explore." (p.43), "Turner was sitting in a front pew as hard as Jericho's pillow." (p.90), "She had one hand up to her open mouth, and her eyes were as shocked as if the Seven Horesmen of the Apocalypse had come riding down into her kitchen." (p.29), "Getting through supper was like being dangled on a spiderweb strand over hell....he was as polite as an angel...as helpful as St. Timothy." This is probably because his father uses religious figures in his sermons, or has taught Turner about the bible, as any minister would do. Most kids Turner's age don't even use literary devices in everyday life, so he's pretty knowledgeable for his age. He's not as adept, though, in social situations. He often "embarrasses his father" by not playing with Deacon Hurd's son Willis, not playing baseball properly in front of First Congregational, and just generally not living up to his father's standards. I think this is both unfair and unnecessary-Turner's character is different from Reverend Buckminster's, he's a young boy who just wants to play and have his own friends, and Mr. Buckminster is a "wise minister." This is not so--Mr. Buckminster repeatedly implies that Turner should go along with Deacon Hurd's ideas, or play with Willis even though he hates him, and gets Turner pushed into situations (such as the chapter when Turner almost jumps off a cliff with Willis and his gang below him-Mr. Buckminster tells him to go with Willis) where he's just pleasing other people and not doing what he wants for himself. It's kind of like the old question, "If someone jumped off a cliff, would you do it too?" Maybe, in the case of Turner. A question for Mr. Buckminster: is it a good idea to tell your son he has to do things other people want him to do, in favor of making his own decisions? I love Gary Schmidt's metaphor of Turner looking at the numbers at the end of his name 'as though they were prison bars'-this really drives the point home that Turner feels locked up and trapped in the expectations of the Turner Buckminsters before him. (I wonder if they were all ministers?) Turner is still beginning to realize that his father may not have all the answers-this is coming-of-age-and maybe it's time for Turner to make some of his own decisions, even if it means getting punished. As Sarah said, Turner is still torn between following his father's orders and being the minister's son, or breaking out of the prison bars and becoming the kid he wants desperately to be.

    -Sophie

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  16. I totally agree with Kanako. I think Turner does not have a choice in the matter. He can’t stop his father from being the Minister. He became the Minister and that’s official. And when Turner tries to get away from being the Ministers son his father punishes him. And the punishments get worse and worse to the point where Turner can’t go to Malaga Island and see Lizzie Bright! And what’s unfortunate is the whole town expects so much from Turner. It’s almost like they want him to be a clone of his father, Reverend Buckminster, except younger. And I think the person who expects the most from Turner (and is just plain mean) is Mr.Stonecrop. Mr.Stonecrop always knows what’s happening around town and ever since Turner has came Mr.Stonecrop has been busting Turner at every chance he’s got. So far he’s done pretty well. And another thing that Mr.Stonecrop always does is, when Turner does something troublesome, the second Mr.Stonecrop hears about it he goes and tells Reverend Buckminster, like Reverend Buckminster doesn’t already know! For example on page 87-88 Mr.Stonecrop tells Turner’s father that it is wrong for a ministers son to be with a Negro and asks why was he with her in the first place.
    Yes, Definitely! I think Turner does have a choice in the matter. One choice he has is, that he just moved to Phippsburg. I know it’s hard moving into a totally different state and leaving your family and friends behind but I think Turner takes it to harshly. He should think of this move from Boston to Phippsburg as an opportunity to do something new, instead of thinking of it like it is a horrible punishment. Another choice that Turner has is not fighting back. When someone starts to fight with Turner, Turner thinks he has to fight back. He fights instead of just saying nicely “Please Stop.” For example, one time in the book Turner was leaving Mrs.Cobbs after reading and playing the organ for her. When he went out the front door there right outside was Willis Hurd. Willis started to make fun of him about visiting Mrs.Cobbs house. So Turner went right up to Willis and clocked him in the jaw. And Willis, of course, punches back---hard! I think Turner, instead, of clocking him in the jaw he could’ve ignored or just said “Please Stop.” And then he went back into Mrs.Cobbs house, bloody and naked, instead of just going back home. And, of course, Mrs.Cobb woke up in astonishment, seeing a naked, bloody boy in her house.
    I think Turner can’t avoid embarrassing his father. I think Turner tries his best not to embarrass his him but when he messes up his father laughs at him. How does he avoid embarrassing his father if his father is always there to laugh at Turner. I think his father is not being fair and should do a better job of parenting. If I was his father I would not laugh and I would tell everybody to stop laughing at my son. Why should Reverend Buckminster expect his son to be like him when all he does is never support him. I also think that Turner can’t stop embarrassing himself. In my opinion the town is not being fair to Turner. And his father is not helping him at all with his problem.


    -Helia

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  17. SEAN B.

    I believe that turner is being forced to be the minister’s son. One reason, is the big 3 at the end of his name therefor everyone thinks he’ll be just like his dad, the minister. Another reason, is that when he got banned from Malaga most likely he wouldn’t the freedom to do many more things. And also I believe that he could have not embarrassed his dad if he had just been normal and act like a minister’s son (back to being forced to be a minister’s son) or if he hadn’t gone into Mrs. Cobb’s house naked, avoiding those catastrophes. He could have also done something more like a minister’s son and not have been throwing rocks at Mrs. Cobb’s picket fence avoiding the organ playing and just have jumped off the rock when the boys were all jumping off avoiding a disaster. he also could have avoided embarrassing his dad and himself and also not lowering his self-esteem by having his dad laugh at him by just not playing baseball with the boys. So in conclusion I believe that turner is being controlled by his dad and being forced to be a minister’s son while also he could have not embarrassing his dad.

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  18. BAILEY G.

    I agree with most of these people that Turner does have choice. He doesn't need to be the minister's son every single day of his life. I think he should realize this in his coming of age. I disagree with Eli though, one of the reasons Turner doesn't just say please stop to Willis Hurd when Willis is teasing him, is that he's tired of saying that, he already said it and he couldn't take it anymore. So, he punches him right smack in the nose. I think a lot of the time Turner is caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Usually he does the right thing, but when he doesn't, he'll most likely get caught. I also agree with Sydney, Turner isn't his father. Turner is his own person, and he should be able to decide what to do with his life. I understand that parents are there to guide you and to help you grow up, but you are not your father, you are yourself. Most people say that Turner has high expectations, and he does. He is the minister's son, he is supposed to be perfect, nice, and good every day, 24/7. But he does have a choice, to be that, or his own self. When he's his own self, he tends to embarrass his father, though. Yes, he could've avoided that, but, it would've been tricky. Everyone embarrasses themselves and their parents at least some time in their life, it's only human to make mistakes. Similar to what I said before, Turner gets caught a lot. He embarrasses his father a lot, too. I think he wants to be his own self. Either he knows that, and tries to become it sneakily. Or, he doesn't know yet and it's part of his coming of age. If I were him, I would've handled the situation better. I would've mustered up all the courage I could have managed, looked my father in the eye, and tell him that i don't try to embarrass him, and I don't want to play the minister's son because that's not who I am. But, that's what I would do, that's me, I think Turner didn't do that because he is kind of shy and that's not who he is. In this situation, I think Turner is feeling like he's looking through prison bars. I agree with most people, again, that Turner could've of handled the situation much better. A lot of people said that Turner had a lot of pressure on him. I think that also comes with being the minister's son. But, to some people, pressure is hard to handle. And I think Turner just doesn't what to do with it. Lizzie helps a lot, though, she practically puts pressure for Turner on sleep mode, and then turns the power button on when she leaves. "Turner hated himself for playing the minister's son" that line on page 42 is proof that he wants to be himself.

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  19. HANNAH L.

    I agree with Matt and Katie that Turner can’t change who his father is and what he does, but he can change himself like how he acts around his friend(s). For example around Lizzie Turner doesn’t have to be who he isn’t, he acts like himself near her. Turner could’ve handled the situation differently by giving Phippsburg a chance, like trying to make new friends and adjust to how his new life would be. It is hard to move to a new town, make new friends, and adjust to the life was going to be. Turner had a lot of pressure on him because he was the minister’s son and he is supposed to be perfect for the new town and do what all the other boys his age do. He doesn’t want to do what all the other boys are doing, instead wants to play with a “negro” girl from Malaga Island (an Island founded by former slaves). I guess that Turner could’ve avoided embarrassing his father and himself some of the time, but Turner’s father also embarrassed Turner too like the time they were at the baseball game. Here is an example of one of the times Reverend Buckminster embarrassed Turner. “You’ll catch on, Turner. Next time, you’ll catch on,” called Reverend Buckminster, and turned, laughing, to one of the deacons, who had thumped him on his back. (Page 6)

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  20. DAVID F.

    In my opinion, Turner Ernest Buckminster III has a small choice in the matter, but like Eli said, he never uses his choice at the right time. But at the same time, I think that If he had handled any of the various situations in a way some would call correct, it would be like putting you're hand in front of a laser-pointer, where the rest of the beam would be cut off, the beam being the story. And I think that he could have handled the cliff seen and the post-fight seen a little better/differently, but in the fight seen, I agree with Cece, I would have put all my muscle square on Willis's nose.

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  21. MARISSA H.

    Honestly, I think that Turner should just be himself. Yeah, like what Eli said and
    many others, he shouldn't of rethought punching Willis in the nose. He also could of
    ignored going into Mrs. Cobb's naked, and getting blood stains on his white shirt. I
    get that those things embarrass Reverend Buckminster, Turner's father, but the fact
    that he laughs at Turner when he strikes out in a baseball game is just not right. Like
    what Molly said, he's really trying his hardest, and that's all anyone could do. So
    after saying all that, I don't think Turner has a choice in playing the Minister's son.
    Again, like what Molly said, no matter what he does, he will still always be the
    minister's son. The point is, Turner's father is the one who should change, so I really
    agree with Sydney on that. He's just so mean and harsh on Turner. It's his fault he's
    embarrassed of his son (sometimes). Respectfully, I disagree with Matt when he said
    that Turner should of just grown up and jumped of that cliff instead of just crying. So
    what?! He's got a fear of heights apparently!! Things like that can't be controlled to
    much and shouldn't embarrass Turner's father. The thing that bothers me just a bit
    is that Turner can't be himself with his father like he is with Lizzie. And that's his
    father's fault! If he was more chill and cool maybe Turner will be more comfortable
    around him. But he's the minister, so he has a lot of pressure put on him, so I guess it
    kind of makes sense...but not at all times. Turner should also stand up for himself
    more. He's starting to do that with his father but not in a respectful way. Like when
    he punched Willis, he stood up for himself...using violence. Not good. Another
    component that plays a big part in this whole topic is Lizzie. I think it's nice to have
    a best buddy that you stick with almost every day. She has also really shaped Turner
    in a way. I really respect Turner for having a Negro as a best friend. It's changed him
    in a good way. So overall, unfortunately, Turner can't really control playing the
    Minister's son in my opinion.

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